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Yuri Bezmenov's avatar

Hope it’s a ruse like the secret B-2 bomber mission. Act like nothing is happening, while twisting arms behind the scenes. Then drop the bunker busters.

Michelle's avatar

If the Dem’s had Trump tied to this they would’ve used it. They completely made up the Russia Hoax… golden showers and all. If they had proof… we would’ve seen it a year ago.

Diana Pishenko's avatar

I think there is a small hole in your logic. And it is that those files MAY contain members of all parties and people around the world. It would be unwise for them to incriminate themselves. They are all the same. Hence, if one falls, they all do. Which is why even if he participated with Epstein, so did many people from the democrats and MANY people across all political spectrum in the entire world.

In my opinion, either party is the same: a bunch of criminals.

Michelle's avatar

I can understand what you are saying, but my goodness the blind hatred for Trump… I can’t make that leap.

Hillary would’ve gladly knifed Bill to be the first woman president.

Diana Pishenko's avatar

This thing goes TOO DEEP, trust me. They would never incriminate each other. But it exists! And I know it is hard to accept they have lied to us, after many supported him for so long, but I think it is evident now that something here is VERY SUSPICIOUS (note I am not saying he is or isn't guilty). But something is DEFINITELY going on here that they don't want us to know.

The truth is, this nasty trafficking side of world exist, there is no denying about it. There is too much evidence it exist, both from the things we have from traffickers and actual survivors testimonies, which are A LOT. And powerful people use it, whether you believe it or not, it happens. They must cheer and toast behind our backs while they call all of us fools.

And I agree with you, sadly because of who Trump is, both too much hatred and too much love, it actually blinds people. I don't hate him, but I think it is wise to accept him and see him for who he is. Then it becomes a lot easier to understand the things he does and direction the country is going under his command.

But make no mistake, a person with power, doesn't matter WHO, is an unhealthy person. We already know how most, if not all, people in power live in the entire spectrum of narcissism, sociopathy and psychopathy. I don't care what party it is, we just shouldn't trust an individual too much. We should focus on actions and not words.

Michelle's avatar

I believe that Epstein and Maxwell trafficked girls, where I cannot make the leap is prostitution ring.

He was a sick man and abused young girls. No doubt.

I just don’t know if he was a “pimp”.

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I could be wrong.

Theresa Smith's avatar

I agree, I was thinking too, that it’s like the Russian hoax. What if there never was a list, just made up by the Democrats. They threw it out there with the suspicion that Trump was on it, with No proof ! Look how long they have pushed the list and Trump, kinda like Russia Russia Russia. Now the Republicans are getting blamed for not releasing something that I believe was never there.

Philip Mundhenk's avatar

Could be. It would be worth trying to track down the origin of the expression "client list" and even the the first application of the word "client" in this context. However it started, it is clearly being used as part of a deliberate Q-style disinfo campaign to portray the Epstein operation as a child prostitution ring, which it clearly wasn't. But that spin pushes instinctive hot-buttons and shifts attention from what's real, which, in the bigger picture, is much worse. Subversion, not perversion. And acts of war against the U.S. by our "ally" and acts of American officials that at least border on treason.

kfflo575153's avatar

This is such a good article you said something in your writing that just really caught my attention and I think its so true “Trump is using what he found to leverage power and to strong-arm votes for things like the BBB, or to preserve certain alliances” which is so important right now in the conditions the world is in.

Trump is a negotiator and he always has been. He likes to dangle the carrot and then pull it back. Israeli is 1 of our strongest allies. I do think they’re involved because of G’s dad.thats how she met Epstein.

Emily's avatar

He "fell off his boat."

kfflo575153's avatar

Do you really think he did?

Midi Drew's avatar

Not if some of them are in there as well. Why are we assuming only Republicans are guilty?

Emily's avatar

Respectfully disagree. And I love how everyone is just forgetting about the 2016 suit filed by that brave Jane Doe. Go read the lawsuit. Doesn't sound made-up to me. And for those who still think he killed himself-- just...how? It's so clear he didn't, simply by what they used to prove that he did. The photos of the original jail cell don't match those on the tapes. And the missing one minute of footage? Bondi sounded like a fool trying to explain that away. I felt sorry for her.

kfflo575153's avatar

I cant figure how he would kill himself either? And why was there so many orange blankets in his jail cell in that picture ??aren’t they only allowed to have one?

Michelle's avatar

All they have accomplished is more mistrust and more questions.

I still think someone somewhere would be leaking names. D.C.

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Nothing would surprise me at this point.

kfflo575153's avatar

🎯 Yes they’re so desperate right now. Did you see that Maxine W. even talking about how to get Melania Trump or the kids deported. I sometimes have to listen or read twice to the things that they come up with. They are 🍌🍌’s

KSPress's avatar

I don’t believe Epstein killed himself, nor will I ever trust a member of the Trump administration again (as someone who voted for him three times).

Michelle's avatar

Same. I have come to realize they are ALL the same. Lying liars who lie. They all disgust me.

Emily's avatar

Agreed. I voted for him twice and was a fan until today. I'm done.

Tonni's avatar

Then the Demoncrats will win going forward. We cannot let that happen no matter what one thinks of the President.

KSPress's avatar

But what this administration has proven is that, Democrat or Republican, they all act the same, so what difference does it make? I had misplaced hope that Trump would be different from the others. He’s not been. He talks a great game, but as things play out, he delivers more of the same. It’s VERY discouraging. I’m not one who’ll vote Democratic just for spite, but I have lost the illusion that any of these clowns mean what they make as campaign promises. It’s very sad and disheartening. We all want and know we need change, and many of us bought Trump’s promise to be the agent of that change, but so far? He’s been a giant let down - just like all the others.

Tonni's avatar

I understand completely. For me it comes down to the lesser of two evils. At this point in time, it’s the Republicans, but of course many of them are evil too. I’m just glad I’m at the end of my life. I worry most about my two grandsons who stand no chance at an America where I grew up. I put all hope in Jesus Christ.

KSPress's avatar

I totally agree with that - for now, the Republicans are the lesser of two evils, and I also agree that it’s really sad to see what our country has become 💔 I have two preteen boys and definitely wonder what life will look like for them down the road. As a believer, I also agree with you that Jesus is our only Hope. ❤️ I am so grateful that, as the insanity of politics ebbs and flows, our Foundation in Christ is secure! Much love to you!

Michelle Shafer's avatar

2024 was a really exciting year for my family. In May, my youngest sister had a baby girl, and then 3 months later, my middle sister had a baby boy! So, now I have a niece and a nephew - exactly the same age - and I’m constantly worried about the country/world that we’re going to be leaving for them (and everyone in future generations). However, at the end of the day, my nephew is a blonde, blue-eyed all-American MALE. The country may be burning down around everyone, but ultimately, he’s got everything that matters going for him. That being said, as much as I worry about my nephew and everyone else coming after us, I’m absolutely TERRIFIED for my niece and her future! What kind of future are our GIRLS going to have?!?

Robyn's avatar

The blackmail Ponzi scheme is worldwide. Coming from this older woman, I’m more than willing to say if it’s about regular old consensual sex, who cares? However if it’s about the garbage surrounded around pizzagate and child abuse I say bring it all out into the light. If it burns down ivory towers, so be it. I’m sick of all the smoke and mirrors.

The Presidents remarks today were insulting. “Are we really still talking about this?” Yes Mr. President we are. Mostly this week because your admin dropped this bomb the day after the flash floods in TX. I’m thinking you thought it would get buried. Instead it became a focal point when we should have been dealing with floods in TX, North Carolina and now New Mexico.

Sin hides in darkness. Someone must be held accountable.

S Lasek's avatar

I definitely believe they dropped it when they did on purpose. More of the same old “look here not there” that they all do. I’m done with the lot of them, different wings of the same corrupt bird.

Frank's avatar

The floods are a really big deal. Geoengineering is causing them. See Brush Junkie's reportage on utube.

Alayna's avatar

I don't want to lose focus of the great things this administration has accomplished and will accomplish. Done w Epstein for now. It's rabbit hole after rabbit hole and my brain and mental health just can't do it

Philip Mundhenk's avatar

It's not really that deep a hole. It's just been deliberately obfuscated by people who want to short circuit your brain by screaming "pedophilia! pedophilia!" à la "Q" so you'll react to that instead of thinking about what's real. The 430 words by John Leake beginning at "Jeffrey Epstein was a much bigger problem" (linked below) are the best short summary I've seen. The reality is not about perversion. It's about treason.

https://www.thefocalpoints.com/p/no-evidence-of-epstein-blackmail

DDDAnon's avatar

Here’s where I struggle …

Wasn’t Epstein arrested under Trump’s first term? Why didn’t Trump pardon him then if he was worried about what was in those files?

And the next administration were throwing knives, no literal bullets to crucify Trump. Tied up in court over weird “crimes” that we still don’t understand and even tried to kill him. No way in hell if they had a smoking gun like that they’d let it go

Cass's avatar

Yes but have you ever stopped to wonder why he was the most hated candidate, then suddenly the most loved? Why the dem party had such obvious corruption and not even a viable candidate? It feels all like controlled opposition, from the jump. Two parties, same controllers.

Aaron Everitt's avatar

I can’t do the 39D chess, trust the plan stuff. It’s lazy.

If I were in a relationship like this, where every time I needed to rely on trust, I was shadowboxed and rug pulled, I’d leave the relationship.

Every citizen has a responsibility to hold the people in government to account. There’s no easy button for being a citizen. Skepticism of government is even more critical when “your team” is in power.

Emily's avatar

Very good point!!! It is an abusive relationship.

Luanne Ferragine's avatar

Also, I voted for Trump because of RFK Jr. and Tulsi. It’s the first time I ever voted Republican. I do not trust Trump anymore nor any of them. Perhaps still RFK Jr. and Tulsi. But one thing for sure I will never vote again. Because I believe as George Carlin one said it’s a big club and you and I aren’t in it. Trump does have connections in this. He hung in the same circle as the Clintons their daughters were best friends. And I’m disgusted by it all, because we’re talking about children being raped and sex trafficked. This is something that the American people I hope won’t turn their back on. And I really wish that the American people would rise up. They want us divided because they know that there’s more of us than the are of them.

Tonni's avatar

If you don’t vote, the Demoncrats will win. America will be destroyed. Which Biblically, America doesn’t exist anyways. So I say let her fall. I pray everyone gets right with Jesus because it’s going to be hell on earth.

Luanne Ferragine's avatar

My trust has never been in man. It has always been in God. Both Democrats and Republicans are one of the same Coin. They want Americans to believe their side is better. They know that there are more of us than them. And if we would all wake up, we could overpower them. If you’ve studied history, every single empire that has ever fallen has fallen when mankind has become morally degraded. We are beyond that point. I believe that God will soon intervene and that is where my hope lies. Until then I will continue to live my life. I will be kind I will look for ways to serve. And I will build memories with my family and friends.I’ve pretty much disconnected from all social media for my own mental, emotional and spiritual well-being.

LindseyyJ's avatar

Something else is going on. Trump is not an idiot- why would he willfully release this Epstein BS during a time of national tragedy in TX and amidst other chaos? And knowing a large majority of his base is smarter than this. I smell BS. Elon, Bibi meeting/award nomination/Maxwell family ties. There’s more to this. The timing of it all. I still stand by voting for Trump; much lesser of an evil than the other option. Not naive however and understand he has many skeletons. But I think he has a soul and wants to do good for our country- but what the F is going on? Jessica find out for all of us 🇺🇸💫

Ellen's avatar

Highly recommend listening to this and following these guys, the Last American Vagabond / Independent Media Alliance. Looks like they were right to not trust either "team", red or blue, it's the same at the top (although I do still believe RFKJ is at least trying to do the right things, yet may not succeed)

https://tlavagabond.substack.com/p/ima-the-encroachment-of-the-bio-digital - at minute 31 they start talking about Epstein ... bigger than trafficking, as awful at that is .. Eugenics, Lex Wexner, Mossad ...

They say that for those who want the client list, read Whitney Webb's One Nation Under Blackmail, Volume 2, it's there.

Philip Mundhenk's avatar

I totally endorse the recommendation of Webb's One Nation. It has an interesting style. Like she deliberately decided NOT to try to pare it down to the most clearly proven facts and make it a clean simple narrative but rather to publish all her notes, facts, speculations, suspicions, everything. Kind of like saying "Everything I have is already out there and I've said all I can about it. No point in suiciding me." Ryan's heart's in the right place but sometimes he seems a bit gullible.

Carrie Scharf's avatar

I don't really care. I'm tired of it.

Jessica Reed Kraus's avatar

I don't blame you at all

Vivian Lewis's avatar

Maybe I’m delusional, but Trump has to come at this from the smartest angle possibly while taking down all the people not only on the list but involved in the coverup. The FBI (pre Trump) did everything they could possibly do to make this go away. That has to be exposed. This is why the Comey investigation is happening first. Trump fulfills his promises. I hate that they lied to us, but I believe it’s the only way to take down the whole machine.

Emily's avatar

The Comey "investigation" is just a distraction from the Epstein debacle imo. It's not an indictment and never will become one. All smoke and mirrors.

Jessica's avatar

I hope you’re right!

SinoRich's avatar

This guy is lying—and very likely the one who carried out Epstein’s second “suicide.” If anyone could snap three bones in Epstein’s neck, it’s a 270-pound convicted killer. He claims Epstein left a “suicide note” in his book, which he magically found after returning to the cell—yet also says Epstein’s dangling arm woke him up. So when exactly did Epstein slip that note into the book? Right. He also claims he learned about the 2nd suicide because was in the cell above Epstein’s and overheard voices saying, “Come on, Jeff!” Sure he did. Then he mentions a second suicide note—except there’s no record of a first or second note anywhere. Just more lies. And how would an inmate know all the cameras “weren’t working”? Convenient. Too many inconsistencies to ignore. So, Jessica, if you are truly believing Nick is an innocent man, why don't you upload the hard drive and let us all go through it with a fine tooth comb?

Luanne Ferragine's avatar

Also Megan Kelly spoke out on X today about Epstein’s brother hiring a doctor to go over the autopsy, but they said that there was no way Epstein hung himself. She spoke about some bone in the middle of his neck, could not have been broken the way it was by hanging. She’s going to talk about it on her show.

SinoRich's avatar

Epstein had three broken bones, the hyoid bone and thyroid cartilages.

Emily's avatar

Can we clear up the Melania modeling agency commentary? According to chat gpt and google, she wasn' tied to any agency that was linked to Epstein or Maxwell. I'd love to see that information if so.

There is no confirmed evidence that Melania Trump modeled for an agency directly linked to Jeffrey Epstein or Ghislaine Maxwell at any point in her career — either before or after allegations became public.

Here’s what’s known:

✅ Melania’s Modeling History:

• Melania (then Melania Knauss) began modeling in Slovenia, then moved to Milan and Paris.

• She moved to New York in 1996 and later worked with Trump Model Management, founded by Donald Trump in 1999.

• Before Trump Model Management, she was reportedly affiliated with Look Models and other European agencies.

❌ No Proven Ties to Epstein/Maxwell Agencies:

• Epstein financially backed MC2 Model Management, run by Jean-Luc Brunel — this agency is linked to trafficking and abuse allegations.

• Ghislaine Maxwell reportedly helped recruit girls under the guise of modeling, often through informal channels or via Epstein’s social circle.

Melania Trump has never been publicly or credibly linked to MC2 or any other agency tied to Epstein or Maxwell.

Carlos's avatar

P.S - Epstein was strangled to death. He had bones broken in parts of his neck, ear and occipital bone that cannot be damaged by oneself. Autopsy's don't lie, though coroners, do.

Philip Mundhenk's avatar

100 to 1, this is being quashed to protect the people who ran Epstein. Nobody in the political class wants to admit that Israel is, and for most of its history, has been, governed by totally unscrupulous, parasitic, lying psychopaths.

Jessica's avatar

I thought about that the other day. I’ve traveled to Israel and absolutely love the people and the country. But…as a Christian, I recognize that there is absolutely precedent for evil kings and rulers (literally making my way through 2 Kings and 2 Chronicles right now!). I mean no disrespect to the Israeli people or the country itself because I absolutely support their right to exist as a sovereign nation, but we are kidding ourselves if we believe their leadership can’t be corrupt or evil somehow. Sadly, I feel that most leaders in today’s timeline are corrupt in some way. It makes me sad to think about.

Philip Mundhenk's avatar

Absolutely. I try to always be explicit that I'm talking about the leadership. Blaming Israelis generically is as dumb as blaming me for Biden's crimes. And blaming "the Jews" is worse. I often say "Remember the Liberty - but also remember that two IDF pilots defied their orders and one suffered for it, and that one of the Americans the others murdered was this guy: https://honorlibertyvets.org/robert-burton-eisenberg.html