Kw row v wade being overturned does not stop abortion. It moves it out if the governmental hands. He can appoint who ever he wants to appoint. If they gain access to the courts then that is out of our hands. The fact still remains that it's not an abortion ban. He does not have the power to give an abortion ban. No one does. Unless state…
Kw row v wade being overturned does not stop abortion. It moves it out if the governmental hands. He can appoint who ever he wants to appoint. If they gain access to the courts then that is out of our hands. The fact still remains that it's not an abortion ban. He does not have the power to give an abortion ban. No one does. Unless state by state that passes. And it never will. Yall fell for the hook line and sinker of that lie.
I didn't say you segregated your friends by sex or orientation. But by default I have more hetero friends and outside of work ppl. Because I'm in a hetero relationship. Same goes for other demographics.
I understand more than you the blue wall. Ans how cops can hide anything they want. But in large dem cities that not usually the case. The numbers can be argued all day. But it's not as inflated as you are saying they are. And you can then come back to me and say they're not as low.
It’s necessary to have federal access to abortion care. We’ve already seen women die from lack of care in states where it’s limited. You can talk all you want form the position of a “birth worker” but that doesn’t absolve you of the deaths of women that you voted for.
K I don't vote. I'm not registered to vote. I told you before I don't play politics. I lived under Biden the best I could. Had Kamala won I'd have carried on. So I actually don't have blood on my hands. You don't NEED or have the RIGHT for federal access. There is a planned parenthood in 90% if the states. And many organizations that pay for women to travel. I am a birth worker. You need to read up and work on the front lines of birth, death, postpartum (both from dnc, miscarriage, still births, abortions etc) death is easy to talk about from a wanted or unwanted pregnancy till you see it in person. And 98% of fetal and maternal deaths are malpractice and postpartum care (or lack there of). Women aren't dying because they can't get an abortion. They're taking abortion pills too low for their body weight, past the weeks recommended, getting botabod abortions that look fine at the time of the procedure, placental tissue is left inside their bodies etc. Even in a hospital a live birth can end in death. You can die on the hill of the lqbtqia community being abused and hated. But I'll die on the birth hill as a mom of 3, a teen mom who was urged to abort, birth worker both in birth and postpartum. I've seen it all. And injury from botched abortions that left the mother's sterile ect. You can talk about what if you get raped etc. What ifs. But seeing a woman bleed out cause an abortion was pushed on her socially and she got an infection , or a still birth, miscarriage where it is a full fetus at 20w gestation. When you SEE the cause you're supposedly fighting for you come let me know.
What is a “birth worker”? You keep using that term. What does it actually mean?
A young woman, Neveah Crain, died in Texas just last week because she was denied a needed abortion. Your experiences are not universal. I am looking at our maternal mortality rates and they are higher than most developed countries. Women of color are treated worse so often that it’s a statistical difference in how often they survive vs white women.
Kw Naveah Crain died from as I said malpractice. She was misdiagnosed twice before getting to the final hospital. That wasn't the result of not getting an abortion. Had she gone in and the 1st hospitaldo their dudiligence they'd have most likely induced her to have a stillborn because of the gestational age of the fetus. An abortion wouldn't have been the life saving measure. A possible DNC once relreleased from the hospital would've made sure that none of tje dead fetal tissue was still in her uterus. As I mentioned in the last message. Over 90% of deaths are not from the miscarriage, it's the infection rate. The abortion may have taken the fetus, but the moms are usually left with zero postpartum care.
I am fully aware of the maternal and fetal death rate in this country. Which is why I'm a Perinatal Nutrition Educator, Birth and Postpartum Doula. I focus more on the postpartum care because that's where most demise begins. Signs and symptoms after birth. I work inside the allopathic medicine field when I have to for a client that wants to do a clinic or hospital birth. But most of my work has been home, and always with a licensed midwifery team there as the medical professionals. I don't deliver the babies that's out of my scope. But I take care of the Mothers. All of them. In good and bad. I've taken care of women post abortion, post miscarriage, post still birth, post dnc from late term miscarriage ect. I've worked with all shapes. Colors and sizes of women postpartum.
I'm practicing what I preach. But if you're gonna rattle off some stats on women dying from not getting an abortion. You're never going to find a situation where that is true. It will always be malpractice and postpartum care being failed to these women. It's not the abortion. It's not the miscarriage. It's not the still birth. You have to catch infection, bleeds, and fever RIGHT away. When that fails, because of again sore postpartum care. Women die. Why don't you march for better postpartum care?
Kw, postpartum care isn't just for women having babies. It's for, as I said. Miscarriage, still born, dnc...and...drum roll. Abortion. Weather you want to believe it or not. A woman's body and brain, hormones STILL THINK SHES POSTPARTUM after an Abortion. She will carry that fetus DNA in her body, as well as the father's FOREVER . So I'd encourage you to get educated on pregnancy, gestation, birth/death of fetus in all forms etc. And what happens to a woman's body after all of these events. Having an Abortion doesn't stop the pregnancy hormones for months. Brains and bodies mourn the loss of the fetus. And I'm perpersonally opposed to Abortion because I lived an unplanned teen pregnancy and stayed with my husband, subsequently had 2 more kids. But women have been having abortions for as long as allopathic medicine has existed. It won't go away. But at least be educated on what an Abortion is, the types, how the pills work etc. Or you are just another dumb ass "marching for all women" but have no clue how women's bodies work.
You have made a lot of assumptions here and attempted to insult my intelligence. You also called me a bitch.
I’m a woman and I am familiar with my own body and it’s processes. Your mini-lecture on abortion is all info I already know and I have given you no indication that I didn’t.
I’m starting to think you might be one of those people who *feels* sensitive about their level of education and therefore is reflexively protective/sensitive about it. I’m sorry if people have made you feel less than but I’m not one of those people.
Kw hahah no. I'm sensitive to ppl saying they care for all women while only pushing that we HAVE to have governmental abortion rights. And that catastrophe is coming soon. You say a lot of "you're projecting" that I may feel sensitive to ABC & d. But you actually troll alllll over this substack alerting that you're the educated one. Which is why I said you think you're smarter than everyone. Based off of ALL of the comments I've ever seen you make. On multiple subjects. Over many months, not just your comments to me. I actually just use context clues reading all of the comments that interest me and how you interact with everyone and add those things together.
You asserted that I am “only” advocating for abortion rights. I corrected you and you continue to insist you know better than I do about what I advocate for. Not once have I ever implied or stated that I only advocate for abortion. I advocate for and donate to women’s health orgs each month, which I am lucky to have the funds to do. I do my best to help women with the resources I have. If someone makes a false assertion about me and what I advocate for, I will correct them.
I’m sorry that you perceive me as anything but straightforward. I do not think I’m “smarter than everyone”. Like most people, I’m smarter than some and stupider than others. There are, however, people here who chose to be willfully ignorant and only lob insults at me. Do you respect people who approach discussion that way? I certainly don’t. There’s a woman here who follows my comments and calls me slurs, but no one ever mentions that to her or calls out her behavior. It’s very odd to me that people here dish it out so hard and are very reactive to simple statements like me speaking about what I advocate for.
Kw I have made assumptions based off of everything I've seen you type. But, this is the most explication you've ever given in a comment. The most explanation that actually shows more of you as a person. So I will apologize for making assumptions, but will still state I only made those assumptions based off of other comments. Over a long period of time.
I don't look at the rest of the comments once I'm in a thread. But I think I do now the other comments ter you're talking about. We've integrated before as well. But I didn't realize it was that bad. I def wouldn't have liked those comments ect.
I def could feel the tone in your messages this thread diff from other times. You felt like a bully too. So no I don't like dealing with conversations like that. Which is why I said you were being bitchy right now and in your feelings. Which isn't all together false. You have feelings I had feelings post Biden election. I'm kind of a bitch all the time anyway cause I don't always soften the way I say shit. And I type like I talk. I told you that. Before. I have a country acce t and talk fast. And cuss a lot.
I'm gonna take the opportunity to take this comment thread and see it from a diff place. I will try to not be so jab jab jab either. And I won't call you a bitch again. I actually think we are more alike than you'd assume based on how we live and our views on certain things. I'd chalk it up to getting passionate about things. But I don't always have the best filter.
Kw row v wade being overturned does not stop abortion. It moves it out if the governmental hands. He can appoint who ever he wants to appoint. If they gain access to the courts then that is out of our hands. The fact still remains that it's not an abortion ban. He does not have the power to give an abortion ban. No one does. Unless state by state that passes. And it never will. Yall fell for the hook line and sinker of that lie.
I didn't say you segregated your friends by sex or orientation. But by default I have more hetero friends and outside of work ppl. Because I'm in a hetero relationship. Same goes for other demographics.
I understand more than you the blue wall. Ans how cops can hide anything they want. But in large dem cities that not usually the case. The numbers can be argued all day. But it's not as inflated as you are saying they are. And you can then come back to me and say they're not as low.
It’s necessary to have federal access to abortion care. We’ve already seen women die from lack of care in states where it’s limited. You can talk all you want form the position of a “birth worker” but that doesn’t absolve you of the deaths of women that you voted for.
K I don't vote. I'm not registered to vote. I told you before I don't play politics. I lived under Biden the best I could. Had Kamala won I'd have carried on. So I actually don't have blood on my hands. You don't NEED or have the RIGHT for federal access. There is a planned parenthood in 90% if the states. And many organizations that pay for women to travel. I am a birth worker. You need to read up and work on the front lines of birth, death, postpartum (both from dnc, miscarriage, still births, abortions etc) death is easy to talk about from a wanted or unwanted pregnancy till you see it in person. And 98% of fetal and maternal deaths are malpractice and postpartum care (or lack there of). Women aren't dying because they can't get an abortion. They're taking abortion pills too low for their body weight, past the weeks recommended, getting botabod abortions that look fine at the time of the procedure, placental tissue is left inside their bodies etc. Even in a hospital a live birth can end in death. You can die on the hill of the lqbtqia community being abused and hated. But I'll die on the birth hill as a mom of 3, a teen mom who was urged to abort, birth worker both in birth and postpartum. I've seen it all. And injury from botched abortions that left the mother's sterile ect. You can talk about what if you get raped etc. What ifs. But seeing a woman bleed out cause an abortion was pushed on her socially and she got an infection , or a still birth, miscarriage where it is a full fetus at 20w gestation. When you SEE the cause you're supposedly fighting for you come let me know.
What is a “birth worker”? You keep using that term. What does it actually mean?
A young woman, Neveah Crain, died in Texas just last week because she was denied a needed abortion. Your experiences are not universal. I am looking at our maternal mortality rates and they are higher than most developed countries. Women of color are treated worse so often that it’s a statistical difference in how often they survive vs white women.
Kw Naveah Crain died from as I said malpractice. She was misdiagnosed twice before getting to the final hospital. That wasn't the result of not getting an abortion. Had she gone in and the 1st hospitaldo their dudiligence they'd have most likely induced her to have a stillborn because of the gestational age of the fetus. An abortion wouldn't have been the life saving measure. A possible DNC once relreleased from the hospital would've made sure that none of tje dead fetal tissue was still in her uterus. As I mentioned in the last message. Over 90% of deaths are not from the miscarriage, it's the infection rate. The abortion may have taken the fetus, but the moms are usually left with zero postpartum care.
I am fully aware of the maternal and fetal death rate in this country. Which is why I'm a Perinatal Nutrition Educator, Birth and Postpartum Doula. I focus more on the postpartum care because that's where most demise begins. Signs and symptoms after birth. I work inside the allopathic medicine field when I have to for a client that wants to do a clinic or hospital birth. But most of my work has been home, and always with a licensed midwifery team there as the medical professionals. I don't deliver the babies that's out of my scope. But I take care of the Mothers. All of them. In good and bad. I've taken care of women post abortion, post miscarriage, post still birth, post dnc from late term miscarriage ect. I've worked with all shapes. Colors and sizes of women postpartum.
I'm practicing what I preach. But if you're gonna rattle off some stats on women dying from not getting an abortion. You're never going to find a situation where that is true. It will always be malpractice and postpartum care being failed to these women. It's not the abortion. It's not the miscarriage. It's not the still birth. You have to catch infection, bleeds, and fever RIGHT away. When that fails, because of again sore postpartum care. Women die. Why don't you march for better postpartum care?
I march for better care for women altogether. Not just for pro-choice movements.
Kw, postpartum care isn't just for women having babies. It's for, as I said. Miscarriage, still born, dnc...and...drum roll. Abortion. Weather you want to believe it or not. A woman's body and brain, hormones STILL THINK SHES POSTPARTUM after an Abortion. She will carry that fetus DNA in her body, as well as the father's FOREVER . So I'd encourage you to get educated on pregnancy, gestation, birth/death of fetus in all forms etc. And what happens to a woman's body after all of these events. Having an Abortion doesn't stop the pregnancy hormones for months. Brains and bodies mourn the loss of the fetus. And I'm perpersonally opposed to Abortion because I lived an unplanned teen pregnancy and stayed with my husband, subsequently had 2 more kids. But women have been having abortions for as long as allopathic medicine has existed. It won't go away. But at least be educated on what an Abortion is, the types, how the pills work etc. Or you are just another dumb ass "marching for all women" but have no clue how women's bodies work.
You have made a lot of assumptions here and attempted to insult my intelligence. You also called me a bitch.
I’m a woman and I am familiar with my own body and it’s processes. Your mini-lecture on abortion is all info I already know and I have given you no indication that I didn’t.
I’m starting to think you might be one of those people who *feels* sensitive about their level of education and therefore is reflexively protective/sensitive about it. I’m sorry if people have made you feel less than but I’m not one of those people.
Kw hahah no. I'm sensitive to ppl saying they care for all women while only pushing that we HAVE to have governmental abortion rights. And that catastrophe is coming soon. You say a lot of "you're projecting" that I may feel sensitive to ABC & d. But you actually troll alllll over this substack alerting that you're the educated one. Which is why I said you think you're smarter than everyone. Based off of ALL of the comments I've ever seen you make. On multiple subjects. Over many months, not just your comments to me. I actually just use context clues reading all of the comments that interest me and how you interact with everyone and add those things together.
You asserted that I am “only” advocating for abortion rights. I corrected you and you continue to insist you know better than I do about what I advocate for. Not once have I ever implied or stated that I only advocate for abortion. I advocate for and donate to women’s health orgs each month, which I am lucky to have the funds to do. I do my best to help women with the resources I have. If someone makes a false assertion about me and what I advocate for, I will correct them.
I’m sorry that you perceive me as anything but straightforward. I do not think I’m “smarter than everyone”. Like most people, I’m smarter than some and stupider than others. There are, however, people here who chose to be willfully ignorant and only lob insults at me. Do you respect people who approach discussion that way? I certainly don’t. There’s a woman here who follows my comments and calls me slurs, but no one ever mentions that to her or calls out her behavior. It’s very odd to me that people here dish it out so hard and are very reactive to simple statements like me speaking about what I advocate for.
Kw I have made assumptions based off of everything I've seen you type. But, this is the most explication you've ever given in a comment. The most explanation that actually shows more of you as a person. So I will apologize for making assumptions, but will still state I only made those assumptions based off of other comments. Over a long period of time.
I don't look at the rest of the comments once I'm in a thread. But I think I do now the other comments ter you're talking about. We've integrated before as well. But I didn't realize it was that bad. I def wouldn't have liked those comments ect.
I def could feel the tone in your messages this thread diff from other times. You felt like a bully too. So no I don't like dealing with conversations like that. Which is why I said you were being bitchy right now and in your feelings. Which isn't all together false. You have feelings I had feelings post Biden election. I'm kind of a bitch all the time anyway cause I don't always soften the way I say shit. And I type like I talk. I told you that. Before. I have a country acce t and talk fast. And cuss a lot.
I'm gonna take the opportunity to take this comment thread and see it from a diff place. I will try to not be so jab jab jab either. And I won't call you a bitch again. I actually think we are more alike than you'd assume based on how we live and our views on certain things. I'd chalk it up to getting passionate about things. But I don't always have the best filter.