The left-leaning pull is strong with this guest. She’s definitely benefiting from a “capitalist” world.
I want the names of the men. And Trump is not one of them. The left loves to throw his name around, but do you not think if he was raping young girls, the liberals wouldn’t have him strung up in the public square? It’s Bill Clinton, the Hollywood elite, & the liberal left who were involved the most. That’s exactly why it’s not discussed more in the media. That’s why the left hate Trump.
But everything else you’ve done, Jessica, is outstanding. Keep diving into truth.
Love the podcast format! I can’t always read text during the day. I appreciate a good verbal story, that’s how I get housework done☺️ you have a gift and your artistic approach is addictive! ❤️
With all due respect, Arabs/Muslims are more “up there” in being hated and victims of hateful PR than Jews, these days. The problem is, any criticism of Israel as an apartheid state makes me “anti semitic”, when the truth is, I am a Semite too. More Jews are understanding the hypocrisy here and are not accepting it, then they get called “self hating Jews”. It’s v sad.
Very interesting stuff! I’ll be honest at the beginning I thought it was going to lean super left. I used to be in a place to agree to disagree but when it comes to politics in today’s climate I can’t any longer. But I stayed open and hung out and enjoyed. Heidi Fleiss is a very interesting lady. I actually recently watched the documentary - Heidi Fleiss: The Would-Be Madam of Crystal. Highly recommend.
Interesting stuff! I really wish the men involved would be made public... in the Maxwell case and the Musk/Heard sex parties (way too many similarities between the two)! And yes Heidi Fleiss, omg a blast from the past! I get there is fear, I mean someone most likely got to Epstein...but dang it needs to happen, blow it up!
Ewe have to add another comment-WE ALL WANT THE NAMES PEOPLE. We want the black book & know that we don’t know because people who are in power are in it. Jess’s coverage of this and honestly, Lauryn’s with Jess was truly epic.
Fascinating! I really like this podcast-format, because I can listen while doing something else. Also, I see that some people are mad because you talk about about her Jewish background and how it played into this. I understand this as you trying to understand what 'made' Ghislaine Maxwell, not trying to give her excuses. I think it is interesting to see how her Jewish background gave her a certain frame to become who she was and that she repeated generational patterns and what she saw her family do. She is definitely a scapegoat, but she also played a part in it. She just is seen as 'the face' of it all through how the media framed her, while I think she was just more of a supplier and a mover, and all the people who were the ones that did the awful things (too) and the clients are being pushed out of the picture, while they were the ones who kept it all running.
I definitely believe she’s a scapegoat but also guilty. Her upbringing and in some ways entitlement because of who her daddy was played into it as well, she’s become this mysterious character but no one wants you to take too close of a look at her because then you realise there is other threads tied to this story (like the men who haven’t been named or prosecuted yet are still likely part of this) they made her seem less than human yet she grew up to be exactly what her father and Jeffrey wanted her to be. I sometimes wonder if Jeffrey threw her under the bus before his death perhaps just in the hopes that the powerful men he knew and was bribing would have him released and leave her to be framed for it. 🤔
Also wanted to comment that I think it is brilliant you had a Jewish guest to provide firsthand insight into a culture most Americans don’t know much about.
I find it strange that there are people who only want to listen to you speak your thoughts. While you seem awesome, bright, and highly intuitive--you don’t know everything! Unless you are Jewish yourself or have been around Jews your entire life and feel confident to speak on the culture, how much could you actually opine on generations of engrained mindsets?
I love this Substack space where it’s more private and feels like we can freely discuss things and we are here because it’s our choice to be here. I have to remind myself that even still there are going to be members who aren’t that cultured or open-minded.
This was an excellent chat, thanks so much for sharing it! I am calling it now--JRK will make it on the Joe Rogan Experience at some point or another!!!
TBH I'm not really interested in your conversations with other people and their takes on these stories. I like your take Jess which is why I'm here. I'd like the information and the story the way you give it and then form my own opinion and have these conversations with my people.
The left-leaning pull is strong with this guest. She’s definitely benefiting from a “capitalist” world.
I want the names of the men. And Trump is not one of them. The left loves to throw his name around, but do you not think if he was raping young girls, the liberals wouldn’t have him strung up in the public square? It’s Bill Clinton, the Hollywood elite, & the liberal left who were involved the most. That’s exactly why it’s not discussed more in the media. That’s why the left hate Trump.
But everything else you’ve done, Jessica, is outstanding. Keep diving into truth.
Love the podcast format! I can’t always read text during the day. I appreciate a good verbal story, that’s how I get housework done☺️ you have a gift and your artistic approach is addictive! ❤️
With all due respect, Arabs/Muslims are more “up there” in being hated and victims of hateful PR than Jews, these days. The problem is, any criticism of Israel as an apartheid state makes me “anti semitic”, when the truth is, I am a Semite too. More Jews are understanding the hypocrisy here and are not accepting it, then they get called “self hating Jews”. It’s v sad.
Very interesting stuff! I’ll be honest at the beginning I thought it was going to lean super left. I used to be in a place to agree to disagree but when it comes to politics in today’s climate I can’t any longer. But I stayed open and hung out and enjoyed. Heidi Fleiss is a very interesting lady. I actually recently watched the documentary - Heidi Fleiss: The Would-Be Madam of Crystal. Highly recommend.
Thanks ladies.
Interesting stuff! I really wish the men involved would be made public... in the Maxwell case and the Musk/Heard sex parties (way too many similarities between the two)! And yes Heidi Fleiss, omg a blast from the past! I get there is fear, I mean someone most likely got to Epstein...but dang it needs to happen, blow it up!
Honestly loving the podcast mix in! Not only is your writing format and storytelling great but also hearing just open “raw” conversation is amazing!
What I love about your work is you go deep. You go places no one else will.
I can’t wait for this to unfold. I’m here for it all!
This was SOOOOOO GOOD. 👏👏👏
Yessssss👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼I’m taking the long way to work tomorrow!!🤗
Ewe have to add another comment-WE ALL WANT THE NAMES PEOPLE. We want the black book & know that we don’t know because people who are in power are in it. Jess’s coverage of this and honestly, Lauryn’s with Jess was truly epic.
Fascinating! I really like this podcast-format, because I can listen while doing something else. Also, I see that some people are mad because you talk about about her Jewish background and how it played into this. I understand this as you trying to understand what 'made' Ghislaine Maxwell, not trying to give her excuses. I think it is interesting to see how her Jewish background gave her a certain frame to become who she was and that she repeated generational patterns and what she saw her family do. She is definitely a scapegoat, but she also played a part in it. She just is seen as 'the face' of it all through how the media framed her, while I think she was just more of a supplier and a mover, and all the people who were the ones that did the awful things (too) and the clients are being pushed out of the picture, while they were the ones who kept it all running.
I definitely believe she’s a scapegoat but also guilty. Her upbringing and in some ways entitlement because of who her daddy was played into it as well, she’s become this mysterious character but no one wants you to take too close of a look at her because then you realise there is other threads tied to this story (like the men who haven’t been named or prosecuted yet are still likely part of this) they made her seem less than human yet she grew up to be exactly what her father and Jeffrey wanted her to be. I sometimes wonder if Jeffrey threw her under the bus before his death perhaps just in the hopes that the powerful men he knew and was bribing would have him released and leave her to be framed for it. 🤔
Thank you, loving this! Can’t wait for more.
Also wanted to comment that I think it is brilliant you had a Jewish guest to provide firsthand insight into a culture most Americans don’t know much about.
I find it strange that there are people who only want to listen to you speak your thoughts. While you seem awesome, bright, and highly intuitive--you don’t know everything! Unless you are Jewish yourself or have been around Jews your entire life and feel confident to speak on the culture, how much could you actually opine on generations of engrained mindsets?
I love this Substack space where it’s more private and feels like we can freely discuss things and we are here because it’s our choice to be here. I have to remind myself that even still there are going to be members who aren’t that cultured or open-minded.
This was an excellent chat, thanks so much for sharing it! I am calling it now--JRK will make it on the Joe Rogan Experience at some point or another!!!
TBH I'm not really interested in your conversations with other people and their takes on these stories. I like your take Jess which is why I'm here. I'd like the information and the story the way you give it and then form my own opinion and have these conversations with my people.