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I’m a woman of child bearing age. If a man decides to exert his will over me, I’m SOL in many states.

I’m a queer woman. The violence against queer people increased dramatically under Trump.

I have trans friends and family. Trump empowers people to hate anyone who’s different from them. Their rights are being stripped in FL.

Empathy is important and being unable to understand how electing a bully empowers people to hate is really key, here. Y’all are being told the left hates you. We don’t. We just want to live our lives freely, as you do.

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Kw that's now how that works. You're blaming Trump for issues that the Supreme Court decided. You do NOT HAVE A RIGHT to an abortion. The courts decided that. Not the President. Abortion for rape, incest and medical make up less than one percent of abortions as well. If a state has a zero tolerance policy, planned parenthood buses individuals to other states. That's legal, and their right to do so.

Poc aren't killed by Police at a rate more than 15 a year all over the nation. That's a fact. Police actually kill more whites then any other race. Whites are more likely to be on hard drugs and hard alcalcohol causing them to attack police. I didn't mention abuse by police, although a black Harvard professor just proved with multiple double blind studies that police don't abuse poc at a higher rate in traffic stops ect. But ya, these stats are correct, but they don'tfit a dem scare tactic.

You are in your feelings because you're only seeing YOUR plight. You're a queer woman and you're bathed more in the lqbtqia community then you are with regular people in your personal time because of your orientation, which is fine becausethats your personal time. Over 80% of the population doesn't want trans in bathrooms or women's sports. But there are not lqbtqia individuals being murdered or physically harmed in America at the rates youre claiming. There is no statistic that can appropriately measure that compared to other crimes other then acts of violence as a hate crime. Those are listed on police reports And they don't show the numbers where you say they were and are abused and hated.

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Nov 7Edited

Who appointed the SCOTUS who decided, Samantha? Trump has bragged that *he* ended Roe V Wade. It’s a platform Republicans have held onto for decades now. The three SCOTUS judges he appointed his first term all lied in their confirmation hearings and said they wouldn’t overturn Roe and considered it precedent.

You are assuming a whole lot about my personal life. I don’t segregate my friends by their sexual orientation, and I’m not sure where you get your data but your info on trans people (not “trans”) is incorrect. Most Americans DGAF. The GOP invented an issue and y’all fell for it hook, line, and sinker.

The police don’t report on their own violence, btw. Imagine thinking the guilty party would do that. There’s what’s called a “blue wall” among officers. Abuse goes unreported (and officers who report it are ostracized).

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Kw row v wade being overturned does not stop abortion. It moves it out if the governmental hands. He can appoint who ever he wants to appoint. If they gain access to the courts then that is out of our hands. The fact still remains that it's not an abortion ban. He does not have the power to give an abortion ban. No one does. Unless state by state that passes. And it never will. Yall fell for the hook line and sinker of that lie.

I didn't say you segregated your friends by sex or orientation. But by default I have more hetero friends and outside of work ppl. Because I'm in a hetero relationship. Same goes for other demographics.

I understand more than you the blue wall. Ans how cops can hide anything they want. But in large dem cities that not usually the case. The numbers can be argued all day. But it's not as inflated as you are saying they are. And you can then come back to me and say they're not as low.

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It’s necessary to have federal access to abortion care. We’ve already seen women die from lack of care in states where it’s limited. You can talk all you want form the position of a “birth worker” but that doesn’t absolve you of the deaths of women that you voted for.

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K I don't vote. I'm not registered to vote. I told you before I don't play politics. I lived under Biden the best I could. Had Kamala won I'd have carried on. So I actually don't have blood on my hands. You don't NEED or have the RIGHT for federal access. There is a planned parenthood in 90% if the states. And many organizations that pay for women to travel. I am a birth worker. You need to read up and work on the front lines of birth, death, postpartum (both from dnc, miscarriage, still births, abortions etc) death is easy to talk about from a wanted or unwanted pregnancy till you see it in person. And 98% of fetal and maternal deaths are malpractice and postpartum care (or lack there of). Women aren't dying because they can't get an abortion. They're taking abortion pills too low for their body weight, past the weeks recommended, getting botabod abortions that look fine at the time of the procedure, placental tissue is left inside their bodies etc. Even in a hospital a live birth can end in death. You can die on the hill of the lqbtqia community being abused and hated. But I'll die on the birth hill as a mom of 3, a teen mom who was urged to abort, birth worker both in birth and postpartum. I've seen it all. And injury from botched abortions that left the mother's sterile ect. You can talk about what if you get raped etc. What ifs. But seeing a woman bleed out cause an abortion was pushed on her socially and she got an infection , or a still birth, miscarriage where it is a full fetus at 20w gestation. When you SEE the cause you're supposedly fighting for you come let me know.

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What is a “birth worker”? You keep using that term. What does it actually mean?

A young woman, Neveah Crain, died in Texas just last week because she was denied a needed abortion. Your experiences are not universal. I am looking at our maternal mortality rates and they are higher than most developed countries. Women of color are treated worse so often that it’s a statistical difference in how often they survive vs white women.

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Kw Naveah Crain died from as I said malpractice. She was misdiagnosed twice before getting to the final hospital. That wasn't the result of not getting an abortion. Had she gone in and the 1st hospitaldo their dudiligence they'd have most likely induced her to have a stillborn because of the gestational age of the fetus. An abortion wouldn't have been the life saving measure. A possible DNC once relreleased from the hospital would've made sure that none of tje dead fetal tissue was still in her uterus. As I mentioned in the last message. Over 90% of deaths are not from the miscarriage, it's the infection rate. The abortion may have taken the fetus, but the moms are usually left with zero postpartum care.

I am fully aware of the maternal and fetal death rate in this country. Which is why I'm a Perinatal Nutrition Educator, Birth and Postpartum Doula. I focus more on the postpartum care because that's where most demise begins. Signs and symptoms after birth. I work inside the allopathic medicine field when I have to for a client that wants to do a clinic or hospital birth. But most of my work has been home, and always with a licensed midwifery team there as the medical professionals. I don't deliver the babies that's out of my scope. But I take care of the Mothers. All of them. In good and bad. I've taken care of women post abortion, post miscarriage, post still birth, post dnc from late term miscarriage ect. I've worked with all shapes. Colors and sizes of women postpartum.

I'm practicing what I preach. But if you're gonna rattle off some stats on women dying from not getting an abortion. You're never going to find a situation where that is true. It will always be malpractice and postpartum care being failed to these women. It's not the abortion. It's not the miscarriage. It's not the still birth. You have to catch infection, bleeds, and fever RIGHT away. When that fails, because of again sore postpartum care. Women die. Why don't you march for better postpartum care?

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I march for better care for women altogether. Not just for pro-choice movements.

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Kw, postpartum care isn't just for women having babies. It's for, as I said. Miscarriage, still born, dnc...and...drum roll. Abortion. Weather you want to believe it or not. A woman's body and brain, hormones STILL THINK SHES POSTPARTUM after an Abortion. She will carry that fetus DNA in her body, as well as the father's FOREVER . So I'd encourage you to get educated on pregnancy, gestation, birth/death of fetus in all forms etc. And what happens to a woman's body after all of these events. Having an Abortion doesn't stop the pregnancy hormones for months. Brains and bodies mourn the loss of the fetus. And I'm perpersonally opposed to Abortion because I lived an unplanned teen pregnancy and stayed with my husband, subsequently had 2 more kids. But women have been having abortions for as long as allopathic medicine has existed. It won't go away. But at least be educated on what an Abortion is, the types, how the pills work etc. Or you are just another dumb ass "marching for all women" but have no clue how women's bodies work.

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Nov 8Edited

You have made a lot of assumptions here and attempted to insult my intelligence. You also called me a bitch.

I’m a woman and I am familiar with my own body and it’s processes. Your mini-lecture on abortion is all info I already know and I have given you no indication that I didn’t.

I’m starting to think you might be one of those people who *feels* sensitive about their level of education and therefore is reflexively protective/sensitive about it. I’m sorry if people have made you feel less than but I’m not one of those people.

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