I know many of us could fully understand what it’s like to live in a college party house (strangers in an out, alcohol and drug consumption, staying up all night etc) but that footage from the police going to the house for a noise complaint back in September draws a much better picture of what the house was really like thus possibly helping us to better understand a reason why D didn’t call the cops when she saw someone wandering through the house late at night. strangers moving through the house seems beyond normal. That mixed with booze or drugs...
keep in mind, some people like myself, can just feel when something is wrong, feel fear but not know why, and then go into panic mode which for me is isolation so who knows the person she is and why she was fearful, she may have been fearful and not know why
She gave a reason why in the affidavit. A reason and a description... including crying/ whimpering, a stranger in a mask and other voices and noises. She didn’t just have a feeling....and that’s only a drop of what we are privied to right now.
Not negating how you feel. So sorry you struggle with that. I too get senses of fear. Just pointing out that the affidavit stated why she was was in frozen shock (to an extent).
I have been thinking the same thing. If I put myself in her shoes, I could have easily dismissed any strange noises or seeing anyone I didn’t know due to the fact that it’s a party house and they had people in and out pretty often. Maybe she thought about calling but she didn’t want cops over there due to the fact that most college kids don’t want cops coming over to search their living spaces. I mean, Door Dash had just been there. She could have chalked up the sounds or strange person in the hall to that.
The affidavit is kept minimal on purpose, I would imagine - just enough to get an arrest signed off on. The trial on the other hand, if no plea is entered, will be Massive.
Easiest explanation for the late 911 call is self-denial. For the roommate to have made that call, she would have to admit that something horrific had just occurred.
THIS. I am 37, and had a (basically) normal childhood. I've had several terrible things happen in my adult life, and I disassociate. Once, when I was 17, I was literally bleeding out after an abdominal surgery site ripped open and all I could do was sit there and stare at a wall. My brother and sister (16, and 18) were literally just running around, screaming. Neither thought to call 911. My aunt and uncle just happened to stop by for a visit and got us all squared away, or I would not be here. Disassociative states are common. I will say that I can also see a young college student freaking out and wanting to get rid of drugs before calling police. Either way, I feel so sorry for Dylan!
Man, you’re an absolute beast when it comes to compiling/relaying detailed information. Thank you for all you do! Just curious, did the original two threads with discussion and links get taken down?
Yeah, I’m in the app. I was catching up earlier today and then when I opened it to read your recap, Harry was gone and I couldn’t find the Moscow threads. I’m ok, with that, just hoping it’s just me that can’t see it.
No shame for Dylan but I don't believe the theories that she saw BK (allegedly) walk past her and thought him to be a house guest. Affidavit states that he had a mask and I'm assuming he was covered in blood. Even IF she didn't see all the blood and ignored the noises, statement of "theres someone in the house" and the crying she heard moments earlier, the masked man would give anyone case for concern. And it must have given Dylan cause as she retreated to her room and locked the door. So whereas we don't know what happened in the 8 hours that followed before she called the cops, she definitely would have known something was up in my opinion.
Also the girls had strung lights up around the patio, so I would think those lights illuminated inside & lit up well. Couldn’t she see he had to be covered in blood? That’s not a normal sight. Not putting more blame on her, I’m just trying to think logically & figure this out.
The photo that Papa Rodgers used isn’t from one of those AI apps, it is an oil painting from 2011 (i think). If you reverse image search it, it will pop up.
It’s not uncommon for young people to not call 911. One example I can think of is Amanda Knox…she saw a lot of things including blood and still didn’t call 911. I’m sure the OG true crime lovers can think of other examples.
Oh good! I'm so happy to hear, Holli. I know there is a flood of info circulating right now but I really just want the basics as a reference on my way to Moscow, where I can shift into a more personal narrative.
The last image in black and highlighted in pink it mentions the judge and LE. Imagine what could happen to this case with a mistrial. Also as mentioned finding a jury that is impartial and doesn’t have social media
Goodness, this is such a great compilation of information! Jessica, you’re my only source for this information on this case since I don’t have or watch any mainstream media. This is all so heavy and I’m sure will only get heavier when you’re in Moscow, good luck!
Pshew, that was a lot. Really just looking forward to putting all the information together in a clearer picture when we get more information. Thank you, Jessica. 🤍
Also thank you for taking the time to compile all of this Jess.
of course!
Yes! Thank you! This is so helpful!
The roommates deserve so many apologies, Dylan especially.
I know many of us could fully understand what it’s like to live in a college party house (strangers in an out, alcohol and drug consumption, staying up all night etc) but that footage from the police going to the house for a noise complaint back in September draws a much better picture of what the house was really like thus possibly helping us to better understand a reason why D didn’t call the cops when she saw someone wandering through the house late at night. strangers moving through the house seems beyond normal. That mixed with booze or drugs...
For me, that was the most crucial piece of "evidence" I've seen that gives a sense of the house and all of the activity around it.
Right - maybe D wasn’t scared. She just went to bed thinking it was yet another wild night at her house.
The affidavit said she was in a “frozen shock” --- seems fearful if she locked herself in room all night.
Ah shoot - forgot that important detail.
keep in mind, some people like myself, can just feel when something is wrong, feel fear but not know why, and then go into panic mode which for me is isolation so who knows the person she is and why she was fearful, she may have been fearful and not know why
She gave a reason why in the affidavit. A reason and a description... including crying/ whimpering, a stranger in a mask and other voices and noises. She didn’t just have a feeling....and that’s only a drop of what we are privied to right now.
Not negating how you feel. So sorry you struggle with that. I too get senses of fear. Just pointing out that the affidavit stated why she was was in frozen shock (to an extent).
There are so many to keep up with! Can you imagine once they release the real info?
Hopefully the prosecution team has a better memory than me.
I have been thinking the same thing. If I put myself in her shoes, I could have easily dismissed any strange noises or seeing anyone I didn’t know due to the fact that it’s a party house and they had people in and out pretty often. Maybe she thought about calling but she didn’t want cops over there due to the fact that most college kids don’t want cops coming over to search their living spaces. I mean, Door Dash had just been there. She could have chalked up the sounds or strange person in the hall to that.
Yes! I can completely relate..that video of the house party provides excellent context
Jessica, thank you so much for putting this together. We appreciate all you’re doing. 💜
Oh, I know it.
Thank you Kimma Xx
God bless you for this excellent post.
The affidavit is kept minimal on purpose, I would imagine - just enough to get an arrest signed off on. The trial on the other hand, if no plea is entered, will be Massive.
Easiest explanation for the late 911 call is self-denial. For the roommate to have made that call, she would have to admit that something horrific had just occurred.
There is so much we're missing. You're right, the Affidavit was minimal on purpose. Just enough to keep him in custody.
Have you heard he went to one of the roommates funerals?
Really? Which funeral?
THIS. I am 37, and had a (basically) normal childhood. I've had several terrible things happen in my adult life, and I disassociate. Once, when I was 17, I was literally bleeding out after an abdominal surgery site ripped open and all I could do was sit there and stare at a wall. My brother and sister (16, and 18) were literally just running around, screaming. Neither thought to call 911. My aunt and uncle just happened to stop by for a visit and got us all squared away, or I would not be here. Disassociative states are common. I will say that I can also see a young college student freaking out and wanting to get rid of drugs before calling police. Either way, I feel so sorry for Dylan!
Man, you’re an absolute beast when it comes to compiling/relaying detailed information. Thank you for all you do! Just curious, did the original two threads with discussion and links get taken down?
No! They are just hidden behind the latest one (which is Harry)
Hopefully everyone is still following them easy enough?
I don’t know if I did something, but the first three entries on your page are this thread, then Vicky Ward, then the affidavit.
Are you searching in the app? It's only available in the app, which confuses me too, lol
Yeah, I’m in the app. I was catching up earlier today and then when I opened it to read your recap, Harry was gone and I couldn’t find the Moscow threads. I’m ok, with that, just hoping it’s just me that can’t see it.
If you go to the ‘chat’ icon (the second icon from left) you can find the other entries.
I came here to say this!
Yep, there it is. Thank you!
It’s so hard to find them:( I can’t
I was wondering the same! I can’t find the two threads you created
It’s under the chat section. Second from the left at the bottom.
Oops found them. I forget I need to look under the chat section.
Hmm, I can’t find them anymore.
No shame for Dylan but I don't believe the theories that she saw BK (allegedly) walk past her and thought him to be a house guest. Affidavit states that he had a mask and I'm assuming he was covered in blood. Even IF she didn't see all the blood and ignored the noises, statement of "theres someone in the house" and the crying she heard moments earlier, the masked man would give anyone case for concern. And it must have given Dylan cause as she retreated to her room and locked the door. So whereas we don't know what happened in the 8 hours that followed before she called the cops, she definitely would have known something was up in my opinion.
Also the girls had strung lights up around the patio, so I would think those lights illuminated inside & lit up well. Couldn’t she see he had to be covered in blood? That’s not a normal sight. Not putting more blame on her, I’m just trying to think logically & figure this out.
The photo that Papa Rodgers used isn’t from one of those AI apps, it is an oil painting from 2011 (i think). If you reverse image search it, it will pop up.
really?!
It’s on this website and others https://www.cgtrader.com/blog/portraits-of-the-21st-century-the-most-photorealistic-3d-renderings-of-human-beings
Oh, and it’s not an oil painting, it’s a 3D rendering of an oil painting
Great find!
"Soldier"
It’s not uncommon for young people to not call 911. One example I can think of is Amanda Knox…she saw a lot of things including blood and still didn’t call 911. I’m sure the OG true crime lovers can think of other examples.
This is the best compiled most reasonable information I have seen, well done once again! Journalism at its finest, always. Thank you.
Oh good! I'm so happy to hear, Holli. I know there is a flood of info circulating right now but I really just want the basics as a reference on my way to Moscow, where I can shift into a more personal narrative.
That last bit has me worried. You only need to follow any of your stories and know what can screw a trial up. They’ll also have issues with a jury
Oh! The last slide, yes. That worried me too:
The leak 🙀🤒
I’m not sure what you mean
The last image in black and highlighted in pink it mentions the judge and LE. Imagine what could happen to this case with a mistrial. Also as mentioned finding a jury that is impartial and doesn’t have social media
Right. It's a very valid concern.
Goodness, this is such a great compilation of information! Jessica, you’re my only source for this information on this case since I don’t have or watch any mainstream media. This is all so heavy and I’m sure will only get heavier when you’re in Moscow, good luck!
Thank you for doing this, Jessica! ✨
Thank you so much for this!!
Pshew, that was a lot. Really just looking forward to putting all the information together in a clearer picture when we get more information. Thank you, Jessica. 🤍
Thanks for putting all of this together!
Curious for those who have Facebook and were following that PR account.... when was it last active?
Im definitely more convinced it was BK than an officer leaking that info. Interested to know if posts stopped right after he was arrested?
If it wasn’t him, I feel like whoever ran the account would’ve said more about the sheath theory once it was proven correct.
In the thread, they say the posting stopped right after his arrest and then deleted completely last week.
Yep I’ve been in the group a few weeks and stopped after the arrest