Ray J goes live unveiling an arsenal of personal texts, DM's, and evidence of the sex tape contract that sealed the secret business deal between three contributing parties
And to think Kris was worried about her being filmed nude while she was taking a bubble bath. That as long as she was covered with bubbles she could be filmed. But her daughter having sex is ok?! Make it make sense.
Sep 12, 2022·edited Sep 12, 2022Liked by Jessica Reed Kraus
If the general public understood how the copyright law works around rights of publicity for content, this whole thing would not have ever had the oxygen it does. When two people consensually make content on a camera they own, they are 50/50 owners of the content. In order for a third party to be able to publish it legally, the owners have to consent. When it comes to adult content, in addition to consenting to the content being published, all parties in the content must provide identification proving they are over 18 years of age (18 U.S.C Sec 2257.). Vivid would have never been able to legally post the video and pass 2257 verification. Ray J is not lying that there was a deal. He sadly got the unfortunate end of it.
Edit: Personal opinion - I have long thought it was time for the Kardashians to admit they spun the deal for the medial. The truth always comes out. No one who buys their products would care that much now. KK has grown up and does actual work to help the wrongfully convicted and uses her money and platform for many good things. I would love to see her come clean and restore Ray J's reputation.
Straight up theft! Pam & Tommy had their sex tape stored in a safe in their home. While they were out of town, the safe was stolen. The couple sued the entities they thought had the tape to keep them from publishing it. Penthouse published Polaroids someone took of the scenes in the tape which were previously published in another country and then the magazine described in detail the content of the sex tape scenes in the article. The couple sued Penthouse and lost because the Polaroid images were taken by someone else’s camera and were previously published by elsewhere which means they did not own them. The couple did win an injunction against (insert name I forget) to keep him from publishing the tape. The guy didn’t care and threatened to do it anyway. The couple was exhausted from fighting and signed their rights away not fully understanding the power of the internet yet. After it was released, the couple wound up suing later and winning less than a million each. [This is a very basic recount. To answer your question directly, the difference is that they didn’t want the tape released while KK & Ray J did.]
So crazy! I had completely forgotten they signed their rights away not fully understanding the newness of the Internet. My bff brought a copy of the tape over one night that she borrowed from a guy at work. We sat on the floor of my apartment drinking wine and laughing. After watching the show, Pam and Tommy I felt so bad that I ever laughed at her pain.
Yes, and they blatantly suck at lying. She released a dex scan of her body to “brag” about her bone density not realizing it also showed her breast implants. And this was right after an interview about coming clean on all her plastic surgery where she claimed to only use botox. Utterly moronic.
You bring up a valid concern: credibility. Why trust a person today who years ago started on falsehoods? I think people are allowed to evolve. You can't erase your prior acts, but you can make good. Where we have to be careful conflating issues is between things done to self and things done to others.
Viewers are intelligent with what they see with their eyes. They can see how KK looks and determine whether they care if she's augmented her own body and how that effects their purchases of the products she produces. Ultimately, KK has no duty to disclose what she's done to her own body.
Ray J is coming forward alleging he entered into a contract orchestrated by K Jenner with KK & Vivid that he's not happy about. Time, reality tv, and the court system will tell what will happen with Ray J coming forward. When the sex tape story became a part of the show recently, Ray J claimed it further negatively impacted his reputation. KK is not saying anything publicly because she's contractually not supposed to and because she holds all the power. While she does not have a legal duty to respond publicly, she could because this involves another human being, whom she knows intimately, who is very unhappy. Ray J might argue her platform for restorative justice for people who were wronged doesn't flow in his direction currently. I personally feel it would be good for her to be fully honest as it would help her credibility. She's not the same person she was when that tape was made. She's evolved. That was 20 years ago. Alas, since the dispute is contractual, I imagine all responses will be handled legally. Contracts are often revisited/disputed/renegotiated.
If what Ray J is saying is true (and it appears he has the receipts) then what the Kardashians did was monetize a lie and then deflect blame by playing the victims. That’s the issue here- justice. Ray J feels his reputation has been tarnished unfairly. Ye believes he is unjustly being kept from his kids and his business deals by being labeled crazy. Note how the Kardashians are repeating the same behavior. It’s in their play book. Get what they can from the situation and then dispose of whoever or whatever no longer serves them. If you look at it through the lens of justice, it all seems to track. Thanks for your insights Jessica and for watching the IG live. I was hoping you’d summarize it!
Her replies to Ray J were so cold and dismissive. She was just straight up gaslighting him too. I can see how interacting with a replicant like her would make someone look/feel crazy.
The world would be a better place without Kardashian influence….but sadly, they’ll find someone else just as desperate for fame to replace them. They are already on deck I’m sure.
I wholeheartedly agree. The Kardarshians and social media has reshaped society into a twisted self obsessed world. 20yr olds think they need botox and other procedures and to wear copious amounts of makeup to look beautiful, these days.
“Kris Jenner... overly injected and self-obsessed, duck-lipped dynasty that seems to rule the industry with mafia-clad untouchability.” Well said and I’m so over it. We, as consumers and followers need to hold these people accountable with our dollars, likes and attention at the very least.
Heard rumors Kris and Faye Resnik were tied to some underage modeling/sex trafficking thing in the 90s. Although, I think Faye was pretty coked out at this time. Kris has also said J Law is like a daughter to her. People claim everyone in Hollywood knows J Law was a “Harvey girl”. Who knows. I imagine Kris’ web of depravity contains a lot of people.
I’m happily out of the loop with the Kardashian stuff. I’ve not watched their show nor bought their stuff (if not by accident). But Ray J caught me by surprise and I’m fascinated by his side of the story. This year has been one where the chickens have come home to roost.
WHERES CHRIS HUMPHRIES AT!! ✌🏽 he got sut down for saying Kim lied about loving him, and it was all for the show!! It's best to believe him now. She destroyed his career for her own selfish needs. These people are poison! And now living the (in Kim's words) America dream! Cancel culture train is on its way
If rehashing a 15 year old sex tape “scandal” is the most engaging storyline they could think of for Kim, then she has to be the most boring human on the planet. I guess if your whole existence is to be a human product and sell shit, having an identity and personality doesn’t really serve you.
The question isn’t “how much longer are we going to ignore evidence of their deeply depleted morals;” the question is how we can go about taking away their “blindly profitable audience” once and for all. I’m afraid this scandal won’t be enough even though Ray J is patently telling the truth about the unthinkable.
Sep 13, 2022·edited Sep 14, 2022Liked by Jessica Reed Kraus
Mainstream Media chooses who society hears about, and those satan worshiping K/Js sold their minds, bodies and souls to the devil for this life they lead... i don’t think we will ever be rid of them.
Definitely watched because you brought us there. Following Ray J now and definitely no Kardashian’s. Can’t wait to see what’s next. The hints at the Hollywood mystery and all your stories have me constantly refreshing my screen. Cheers
Kris watching videos of her daughter having sex and picking the “best one” is unimaginable. How sick. Just…gross.
One detail no one should overlook.
Yes that’s despicable but totally believable. She’s a ghoul.
And to think Kris was worried about her being filmed nude while she was taking a bubble bath. That as long as she was covered with bubbles she could be filmed. But her daughter having sex is ok?! Make it make sense.
If the general public understood how the copyright law works around rights of publicity for content, this whole thing would not have ever had the oxygen it does. When two people consensually make content on a camera they own, they are 50/50 owners of the content. In order for a third party to be able to publish it legally, the owners have to consent. When it comes to adult content, in addition to consenting to the content being published, all parties in the content must provide identification proving they are over 18 years of age (18 U.S.C Sec 2257.). Vivid would have never been able to legally post the video and pass 2257 verification. Ray J is not lying that there was a deal. He sadly got the unfortunate end of it.
Edit: Personal opinion - I have long thought it was time for the Kardashians to admit they spun the deal for the medial. The truth always comes out. No one who buys their products would care that much now. KK has grown up and does actual work to help the wrongfully convicted and uses her money and platform for many good things. I would love to see her come clean and restore Ray J's reputation.
great point!
But how is it different with what happened to Pamela Andersen and Tommy Lee?
Straight up theft! Pam & Tommy had their sex tape stored in a safe in their home. While they were out of town, the safe was stolen. The couple sued the entities they thought had the tape to keep them from publishing it. Penthouse published Polaroids someone took of the scenes in the tape which were previously published in another country and then the magazine described in detail the content of the sex tape scenes in the article. The couple sued Penthouse and lost because the Polaroid images were taken by someone else’s camera and were previously published by elsewhere which means they did not own them. The couple did win an injunction against (insert name I forget) to keep him from publishing the tape. The guy didn’t care and threatened to do it anyway. The couple was exhausted from fighting and signed their rights away not fully understanding the power of the internet yet. After it was released, the couple wound up suing later and winning less than a million each. [This is a very basic recount. To answer your question directly, the difference is that they didn’t want the tape released while KK & Ray J did.]
So crazy! I had completely forgotten they signed their rights away not fully understanding the newness of the Internet. My bff brought a copy of the tape over one night that she borrowed from a guy at work. We sat on the floor of my apartment drinking wine and laughing. After watching the show, Pam and Tommy I felt so bad that I ever laughed at her pain.
Yes, and they blatantly suck at lying. She released a dex scan of her body to “brag” about her bone density not realizing it also showed her breast implants. And this was right after an interview about coming clean on all her plastic surgery where she claimed to only use botox. Utterly moronic.
You bring up a valid concern: credibility. Why trust a person today who years ago started on falsehoods? I think people are allowed to evolve. You can't erase your prior acts, but you can make good. Where we have to be careful conflating issues is between things done to self and things done to others.
Viewers are intelligent with what they see with their eyes. They can see how KK looks and determine whether they care if she's augmented her own body and how that effects their purchases of the products she produces. Ultimately, KK has no duty to disclose what she's done to her own body.
Ray J is coming forward alleging he entered into a contract orchestrated by K Jenner with KK & Vivid that he's not happy about. Time, reality tv, and the court system will tell what will happen with Ray J coming forward. When the sex tape story became a part of the show recently, Ray J claimed it further negatively impacted his reputation. KK is not saying anything publicly because she's contractually not supposed to and because she holds all the power. While she does not have a legal duty to respond publicly, she could because this involves another human being, whom she knows intimately, who is very unhappy. Ray J might argue her platform for restorative justice for people who were wronged doesn't flow in his direction currently. I personally feel it would be good for her to be fully honest as it would help her credibility. She's not the same person she was when that tape was made. She's evolved. That was 20 years ago. Alas, since the dispute is contractual, I imagine all responses will be handled legally. Contracts are often revisited/disputed/renegotiated.
If what Ray J is saying is true (and it appears he has the receipts) then what the Kardashians did was monetize a lie and then deflect blame by playing the victims. That’s the issue here- justice. Ray J feels his reputation has been tarnished unfairly. Ye believes he is unjustly being kept from his kids and his business deals by being labeled crazy. Note how the Kardashians are repeating the same behavior. It’s in their play book. Get what they can from the situation and then dispose of whoever or whatever no longer serves them. If you look at it through the lens of justice, it all seems to track. Thanks for your insights Jessica and for watching the IG live. I was hoping you’d summarize it!
Her replies to Ray J were so cold and dismissive. She was just straight up gaslighting him too. I can see how interacting with a replicant like her would make someone look/feel crazy.
honestly, that's what bothered me the most. The gaslighting.
Yes! So much gaslighting it would make anyone doubt themselves. The Kardashians are skilled narcissists and manipulators.
The world would be a better place without Kardashian influence….but sadly, they’ll find someone else just as desperate for fame to replace them. They are already on deck I’m sure.
I wholeheartedly agree. The Kardarshians and social media has reshaped society into a twisted self obsessed world. 20yr olds think they need botox and other procedures and to wear copious amounts of makeup to look beautiful, these days.
it's so depressing. And boring!
“Duck Lipped”…….I’m DEAD…DEAD !! 🤣✌🏼
“Kris Jenner... overly injected and self-obsessed, duck-lipped dynasty that seems to rule the industry with mafia-clad untouchability.” Well said and I’m so over it. We, as consumers and followers need to hold these people accountable with our dollars, likes and attention at the very least.
All I can think about is how many degrees will this scandal connect to Ghislaine &/or the Clintons 😏
Well, one spolier alert - Ghislaine was friendly with Kris's mom (who ran a children's clothing boutique in San Diego) so ... one degree?
Children’s clothing boutique…
Story writes itself… ( even if it’s all in my imagination )
Details coming soon 👀
As the saying goes, truth stranger than fiction! In this case, I have no doubt. Children’s clothes, ohhh God.😢
Heard rumors Kris and Faye Resnik were tied to some underage modeling/sex trafficking thing in the 90s. Although, I think Faye was pretty coked out at this time. Kris has also said J Law is like a daughter to her. People claim everyone in Hollywood knows J Law was a “Harvey girl”. Who knows. I imagine Kris’ web of depravity contains a lot of people.
spot on
Mind blown!
I’m happily out of the loop with the Kardashian stuff. I’ve not watched their show nor bought their stuff (if not by accident). But Ray J caught me by surprise and I’m fascinated by his side of the story. This year has been one where the chickens have come home to roost.
WHERES CHRIS HUMPHRIES AT!! ✌🏽 he got sut down for saying Kim lied about loving him, and it was all for the show!! It's best to believe him now. She destroyed his career for her own selfish needs. These people are poison! And now living the (in Kim's words) America dream! Cancel culture train is on its way
I feel like Chris saw through her right away! And was annoyed onscreen, which is why they had to nix him ASAP!
Oh definitely! He was probably asking to many questions to...... just gotta say I'm such a fan. Lots a love from New Zealand ✌🏽
Thank you Zara! P.s. I love your name.
Thank you❤️ as a royal lover I can see why you do xx
Listen to the very end. SHARE!!
https://odysee.com/ had to remove awl the links. Hopefully u received them and same to watch and share!!
exactly!
'duck-lipped dynasty'
I can't stop fuckin giggling.
Never been a fan. Never understood what there was to a fan of???
But I WILL ALWAYS see them as the Duck Lipped Dynasty forever more.
If rehashing a 15 year old sex tape “scandal” is the most engaging storyline they could think of for Kim, then she has to be the most boring human on the planet. I guess if your whole existence is to be a human product and sell shit, having an identity and personality doesn’t really serve you.
“Duck lipped dynasty” 🔥🤣 So over these shallow “idols”. Take them down! I want my children to aspire to be NOTHING like these people!
The question isn’t “how much longer are we going to ignore evidence of their deeply depleted morals;” the question is how we can go about taking away their “blindly profitable audience” once and for all. I’m afraid this scandal won’t be enough even though Ray J is patently telling the truth about the unthinkable.
Definitely that last line 🙌 sick of them! High ranking witches is what they are 🤦♀️ Killary's bestie🤣
Mainstream Media chooses who society hears about, and those satan worshiping K/Js sold their minds, bodies and souls to the devil for this life they lead... i don’t think we will ever be rid of them.
Definitely watched because you brought us there. Following Ray J now and definitely no Kardashian’s. Can’t wait to see what’s next. The hints at the Hollywood mystery and all your stories have me constantly refreshing my screen. Cheers
Oh, get ready! Some good stuff ahead.