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As a birth worker, the amount of women wholly uneducated about the "reproductive rights" conversation, miscarriages, abortion ect is staggering. That was the issue with the Dem talking points. It was heavy handed for abortion rights. Did Trump take your abortion rights away the 1st time? No. Sending it to the states insures the demographic of that area gets the abortion access that area wants. But the medical diagnosis on the left are fantastic. Trump is apparently a narnarcissist, malignant dependending on who is writing the headline. Miscarriages are killing women. That's now how this works. You can't diagnose via the internet, and miscarriages don't kill women. Postpartum infections and malpractice do.

Lqbtqia+++ are in danger. African Americans are as well. But that's so weird cause he was already president, those statements were false then as well. Demographics this go round show he flipped ALL POC numbers, and historical highs for all Latino denominations.

Everyone is reacting like he wasn't already in office once. He has stated he made a ton of mistakes, didn't take good advice, didn't appoint the appropriate advisors ect.

I don't even care about the screeching and upset about Trump in gengeneral. Ppl have hated him for almost 10yr. Ppl who hate him, you can't change their minds. BUT the ignorance around birth, miscarriages, ectopic pregnancy, abortion (weeks, procedures, types of abortions), what constitutes and abortion on your insurance vs in real life ect are abhorrent.

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Samantha, thank you for stating this, obviously many are misled/confused.

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If you aren’t LGBTQ+ or Black, how the fuck would you know if we were in danger?

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Kw, because the same laws in place 3 days ago are still in place. The same laws in place in 6m will still be in place, but with a closed border. Legal immigration adds a safety control to ppl coming in. Laws are meant to be followed by everyone. It is 2024. NO black or brown person is being harmed in the streets. Statistically unless it's another black or brown person. And 15 police killings a year cross country. White ppl kill more white ppl as well. Although, interestingly enough when I was 13 my mother was beaten to death by black men in a rural NC town, and they got away with it woth the help of the police. Because they redistribute drugs for dirty cops. Thats how the fuck I can see things the way I see them. My Mama's color and female status didn't stop her from being murdered. Their poc and male status didn't put them in jail. Not everything is black and white.

You were at least trying to be logical a month ago. You're in your feelings right now and being a bitch. Step back and remember what you used to tell everyone. Look at policy and FACT. There is no part of the gov that can be changed by Trump that would allow races and lgbtqia to be harmed (although that's subjective. Feelings don't count). And reproductive rights were tasked by the supreme court. He can't touch those either.

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I am so terribly sorry to hear about your mother's tragic death. That is horrible and must have been awful for you to go through at such a young age.

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Jamie, sadly my whole childhood was rough. Well under the poverty line, we had an out house, sketch power ect. I'm only 37. So I grew up poor 1930 tho sort of. My mom sadly was a little manic bipolar and an alcoholic. She def had herself in ununsafe positions in her manic episodes. But it was a lot to get around mentally. Cause there is the narrative that this doesn't happen to white ppl. So it was a whole thing. My rough childhood actually helped me mentally deal with her passing. I have her ashes in my home. I have closure ect. But it does inform how I see race relations. I can honestly admit that openly. Her color and sex didn't shield her or my family.

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So you don’t know. Cool.

You are wrong about the number of killings by police. Besides that, police kill civilians in their own homes, or abuse them openly. I’m not talking about what is legal. I’m talking about what people get away with.

Calling me a “bitch” for asking you a pointed question speaks to your own feelings, not mine.

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Kw I do know actually. Since I was the victim of a violent hate crime as mentioned above. But again, that doesn't fit your narrative of victim victim I guess. If white men murdered your mother and got away with it we would have to sing a different tune because you're a poc. But it happening to a white woman isn't good enough to appropriately understand race relations in regards to violence I guess.

You are being a bitch. In the whole thread. You're talking about empathy and everyone understanding your plight. And seeing your pain, your communities pain (which, I ironically do, but its hard to communicate with anyone being so angry)...but you're being so ugly to everyone. All the while over half of this nation just said they're tired of the identity politics and whining and PC shit. You were so smug a month ago. So sure Kamala was the great savior. But at least you were able to have some discourse and conversation with people in a different way. The results made you feel shit and you are taking it out on a comment section on sub stack.

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I’m not a POC, I’m not sure where you got that idea.

I’m sorry your mother was the victim of a crime. Your story doesn’t magically mean Black people are the enemy in every case, nor does it absolve the police of their crimes.

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Kw I assumed you were by the way you went hard at me being neither in the community or poc. How the fuck would I know anything ect.

Ya I know my mom's story gives a gray area. That's why I shared it. Not everyone in the LGBTqia community or poc community are the only ones neg affected by police/gov ect. And in my case the poc were the protected ones instead of the white person. There are a ton of morally gray areas. And it feels polarizing to you in diff ways than me. I don't Harbor I'll will towards all poc or police. But it does give me pause and question things more. Which is what I was trying to say.

I selfishly say Trump is better for my personal life. My husband's retirement will go more smoothly from the usmc, home buying is going to be a different scenario, va loans are shifting ect. But that doesn't mean I want bad for other ppl. I think there are more ppl like me then most liberals can see. But it's the polarizing of the left and right arguments.

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Home loans won’t change under Trump. Tariffs will raise prices domestically, and housing prices will stay static.

My points are not meant to be polarizing. IMO you have every right to be angry at the police for failing to protect your mother. American police are an incredibly corrupt institution. They protect property, not people.

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Kw in our situation the loans will change because we will use a va loan. So they are based closely off of what is happening inside the government. The rates for us will drop, although I'm not sure for conventional or fha will to be honest. I focused more on understanding the loan I knew we would attempt to utilize in the future.

Your comments may not be polarizing all the time. But there are certain talking points that are. We are made to believe there is no middle ground. No gray. My Mama's death taught me that. That nothing is always as it seems. That's why I said I am sympathetic to dems right now. Everyone's feelings. But also, the US got here because things have been so bad the last 4yr I think ppl are tired. The pendulum had to swing back conservative for a bit.

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We were still conservative under Biden courtesy of Trump’s influence and Ron DeSantis’ influence. Trump advocated against the border bill so he could use it as a talking point. It makes no sense to me how people support this man when he has made it clear he doesn’t understand most of his own words (a 25% tariff on goods from Mexico will be passed on to consumers, for example). The man has bankrupted casinos. He doesn’t know economics, he knows how to extract money and leave.

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Kw, and you're still not listening to the comments back to you. We were not still conservative under Biden. It's the most radical liberal the US has been in recent history. Which is why I said naturally, like in nature. The pendulum will swing back. And you can talk about a billionaire being bad with money all day. It looks silly. Fact is, the va loan rates come out at 10 am M-F. The day after he was elected they dropped a full .5% and are going to keep trending down. That doesn't mean 2% or anything. But we won't be at 7% anymore.

I wanted to be able to take you seriously as a person. But our abortion and "birth worker" thread has made me realize. You're just walking around thinking you're smarter than everyone. But you don't grasp how abortion, pregnancy, birth, medical care for women, women's bodies actually work. You just talk a big game. But never actually put any hard work in behind the scenes. I'll be over here actually working to give and get better care for women, and you can commiserate on how the orange man is gonna harm your community, and were all stupid for thinking his economic policies will work.

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I would love to hear facts about how you are in danger under Trump, or how you were endangered by Trump when he was previously President.

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I’m a woman of child bearing age. If a man decides to exert his will over me, I’m SOL in many states.

I’m a queer woman. The violence against queer people increased dramatically under Trump.

I have trans friends and family. Trump empowers people to hate anyone who’s different from them. Their rights are being stripped in FL.

Empathy is important and being unable to understand how electing a bully empowers people to hate is really key, here. Y’all are being told the left hates you. We don’t. We just want to live our lives freely, as you do.

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Kw that's now how that works. You're blaming Trump for issues that the Supreme Court decided. You do NOT HAVE A RIGHT to an abortion. The courts decided that. Not the President. Abortion for rape, incest and medical make up less than one percent of abortions as well. If a state has a zero tolerance policy, planned parenthood buses individuals to other states. That's legal, and their right to do so.

Poc aren't killed by Police at a rate more than 15 a year all over the nation. That's a fact. Police actually kill more whites then any other race. Whites are more likely to be on hard drugs and hard alcalcohol causing them to attack police. I didn't mention abuse by police, although a black Harvard professor just proved with multiple double blind studies that police don't abuse poc at a higher rate in traffic stops ect. But ya, these stats are correct, but they don'tfit a dem scare tactic.

You are in your feelings because you're only seeing YOUR plight. You're a queer woman and you're bathed more in the lqbtqia community then you are with regular people in your personal time because of your orientation, which is fine becausethats your personal time. Over 80% of the population doesn't want trans in bathrooms or women's sports. But there are not lqbtqia individuals being murdered or physically harmed in America at the rates youre claiming. There is no statistic that can appropriately measure that compared to other crimes other then acts of violence as a hate crime. Those are listed on police reports And they don't show the numbers where you say they were and are abused and hated.

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Who appointed the SCOTUS who decided, Samantha? Trump has bragged that *he* ended Roe V Wade. It’s a platform Republicans have held onto for decades now. The three SCOTUS judges he appointed his first term all lied in their confirmation hearings and said they wouldn’t overturn Roe and considered it precedent.

You are assuming a whole lot about my personal life. I don’t segregate my friends by their sexual orientation, and I’m not sure where you get your data but your info on trans people (not “trans”) is incorrect. Most Americans DGAF. The GOP invented an issue and y’all fell for it hook, line, and sinker.

The police don’t report on their own violence, btw. Imagine thinking the guilty party would do that. There’s what’s called a “blue wall” among officers. Abuse goes unreported (and officers who report it are ostracized).

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Kw row v wade being overturned does not stop abortion. It moves it out if the governmental hands. He can appoint who ever he wants to appoint. If they gain access to the courts then that is out of our hands. The fact still remains that it's not an abortion ban. He does not have the power to give an abortion ban. No one does. Unless state by state that passes. And it never will. Yall fell for the hook line and sinker of that lie.

I didn't say you segregated your friends by sex or orientation. But by default I have more hetero friends and outside of work ppl. Because I'm in a hetero relationship. Same goes for other demographics.

I understand more than you the blue wall. Ans how cops can hide anything they want. But in large dem cities that not usually the case. The numbers can be argued all day. But it's not as inflated as you are saying they are. And you can then come back to me and say they're not as low.

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It’s necessary to have federal access to abortion care. We’ve already seen women die from lack of care in states where it’s limited. You can talk all you want form the position of a “birth worker” but that doesn’t absolve you of the deaths of women that you voted for.

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K I don't vote. I'm not registered to vote. I told you before I don't play politics. I lived under Biden the best I could. Had Kamala won I'd have carried on. So I actually don't have blood on my hands. You don't NEED or have the RIGHT for federal access. There is a planned parenthood in 90% if the states. And many organizations that pay for women to travel. I am a birth worker. You need to read up and work on the front lines of birth, death, postpartum (both from dnc, miscarriage, still births, abortions etc) death is easy to talk about from a wanted or unwanted pregnancy till you see it in person. And 98% of fetal and maternal deaths are malpractice and postpartum care (or lack there of). Women aren't dying because they can't get an abortion. They're taking abortion pills too low for their body weight, past the weeks recommended, getting botabod abortions that look fine at the time of the procedure, placental tissue is left inside their bodies etc. Even in a hospital a live birth can end in death. You can die on the hill of the lqbtqia community being abused and hated. But I'll die on the birth hill as a mom of 3, a teen mom who was urged to abort, birth worker both in birth and postpartum. I've seen it all. And injury from botched abortions that left the mother's sterile ect. You can talk about what if you get raped etc. What ifs. But seeing a woman bleed out cause an abortion was pushed on her socially and she got an infection , or a still birth, miscarriage where it is a full fetus at 20w gestation. When you SEE the cause you're supposedly fighting for you come let me know.

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What is a “birth worker”? You keep using that term. What does it actually mean?

A young woman, Neveah Crain, died in Texas just last week because she was denied a needed abortion. Your experiences are not universal. I am looking at our maternal mortality rates and they are higher than most developed countries. Women of color are treated worse so often that it’s a statistical difference in how often they survive vs white women.

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Kw Naveah Crain died from as I said malpractice. She was misdiagnosed twice before getting to the final hospital. That wasn't the result of not getting an abortion. Had she gone in and the 1st hospitaldo their dudiligence they'd have most likely induced her to have a stillborn because of the gestational age of the fetus. An abortion wouldn't have been the life saving measure. A possible DNC once relreleased from the hospital would've made sure that none of tje dead fetal tissue was still in her uterus. As I mentioned in the last message. Over 90% of deaths are not from the miscarriage, it's the infection rate. The abortion may have taken the fetus, but the moms are usually left with zero postpartum care.

I am fully aware of the maternal and fetal death rate in this country. Which is why I'm a Perinatal Nutrition Educator, Birth and Postpartum Doula. I focus more on the postpartum care because that's where most demise begins. Signs and symptoms after birth. I work inside the allopathic medicine field when I have to for a client that wants to do a clinic or hospital birth. But most of my work has been home, and always with a licensed midwifery team there as the medical professionals. I don't deliver the babies that's out of my scope. But I take care of the Mothers. All of them. In good and bad. I've taken care of women post abortion, post miscarriage, post still birth, post dnc from late term miscarriage ect. I've worked with all shapes. Colors and sizes of women postpartum.

I'm practicing what I preach. But if you're gonna rattle off some stats on women dying from not getting an abortion. You're never going to find a situation where that is true. It will always be malpractice and postpartum care being failed to these women. It's not the abortion. It's not the miscarriage. It's not the still birth. You have to catch infection, bleeds, and fever RIGHT away. When that fails, because of again sore postpartum care. Women die. Why don't you march for better postpartum care?

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Why are you so angry? Honest question.

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KF she wasn't this angry a month ago. Snippy and a smart ass. Assuming she was way smarter then everyone else. Sort of how all the main stream news is calling all of middle America uneducated, non college graduates (which is hilarious cause I am SAHM mom, homeschool ect. And I have multiple degrees for fun lol I'm not in the work force cause I don't have to be). They can't fathom that smart ppl would vote red. And for Trump especially. But popular vote and electoral were red. So rare, so that means they should probably all take a step back and think on why so many ppl voted against her, the party ect. So KW is in her feelings, where usually she's just snippy and wants to rurumble in a comment section.

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Got it. Hopefully they start to wake up to fake news and the lies the DNC spread so they could continue to reap in the $$$ and oppress the rest of us.

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Kf I'm selfish in this end of things. My husband is ucmc and his 20yr retirement will be under a rep. That's the best news for me personally. His retirement will be exponentially more streamline. But more then that. I'm neither left or right. In the middle on some things, right on others ect. But I was SHOCKED no one was upset that she was placed. She didn't have to run. Even Hilary had to run, and held her own. As much as I loathe her because of her military policies, she at least held her own in the polls and running.

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That’s a lot of projection. I’m not “in my feelings” at all, you keep slinging ad hominem as if that’s helpful. It’s not.

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I’m not angry, I’m confused at how many adults need to have empathy explained to them. I was taught empathy by my conservative parents and it seems to have disappeared on the right.

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I disagree.

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What do you disagree with? I made several statements.

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